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Tuesday, July 8, 2008

CHURCH VS GAY MARRIAGE...

I have strong feeling about gays. I have strong emotions for my church. I don't know for sure what to think about my church counseling members in California last week to vote against the establishment of gay marriage rights.
As I see it, these people, who are honest, hardworking, and as good as anyone have a right to be married respectfully, the same as all of us. I don't understand the problem. After all, the situation has been let out of the closet and isn't likely to be hidden away again as if it doesn't exist, like it has been before. We have to make peace with it.
It's too bad that it has to take on such a magnanimous proportion, making it all WAY out of proportion to itself. The definition of marriage as it stands....or does it stand anywhere?...is not being threatened is it? I realize I might be very naive about these matters. On the other hand, the church leadership is most likely to know where this matter can take all of us later on. Members are obligated to hear their counsel. They are not obligated to have no thoughts for themselves or act accordingly.
It's really so sad that Mother Nature plays such a cruel trick on people singled out to be gay. I will never believe that they made a 'decision' to be so. I am also not naive enough to not know that there are plenty of sexual experimenters who want to "try everything" before they settle down, or think that sex is okay anytime with whomever and whatever. They don't qualify as true homosexuals. They are immoral and promiscuous. Not the same thing. That is a different problem to deal with. Why can't we accept that in some cases, a person can be born with the mindset of one sex and the physical properties of another? It's a cross-up. [It helps if you accept that there is pre-existence.] Babies are born with other mistakes of nature. Why is this such a difficult concept to realize that the descending of sexual glands either happens or not within a mistaken order/message from the DNA?
Anyway, I cannot vote against these people. It would not be right. It goes against their civil liberties. Let them be what they are and go quietly on with their lives. If nature made mistakes then only God can fix that. I truly believe that He will.

4 comments:

JoAnna said...

I've been trying to compose my thoughts in my head so they come out right, but I don't think that's going to happen :)
Here's maybe a different side of it... when I think of legalizing gay marriage I think that would mean we would see it in society more. Public affections etc. Okay, isn't it fair that they are able to hold hands etc in public just like I am with my husband? Probably, but, and this may sound horribly closed minded etc, then I think of having my kids and them seeing this as normal when we go to the park or restaurant or store or whatever. Even if I agree that this is something gay people are born with and we should accept them, it does (sorry if this offends anyone) worry me to have my kids see it. Not because they shouldn't accept and love Uncle Karen etc but because there is already so much out there opposing morals. I too have known a gay person or two that it does seem like an experiment or a rebellion and not a true this is who I am thing. By making it public, we're not just telling our kids to love and accept people, I fear we'd be showing them one more "temptation" (if I can call it that) that they will have to deal with. How can I explain that it's okay for some people but unless you really, truly, honestly feel that you are that way, it's not right?
Does that argument make any sense? Or do I just sound prejudice? Some people compare gay rights to equal rights of blacks and gay marriage to inter-racial marriage. Maybe I sound as closed minded as if I'm saying I don't want my kids to see an interracial couple? I'm really wanting to know what other people think, so please, discuss! Don't worry about my feelings. And I apologize if I've said something offensive. But really, it's an interesting topic that I think we should be educated about, so let's quit apologizing and just have an open discussion. :)

mudderbear said...

I agree with you. I feel the same way, Is that hypocritical? I think people should be left alone to live their lives with as much nobility as they can, but that's presuming that they are all indeed noble and not all of them are. It feels a lot like war might feel. You have to fight it, but there are no real solutions to the problems.

Heather said...

I believe there is a big difference in 'accepting' and tolerating. I think one can tolerate a lot of things without hypocrisy and not have to accept them because of a moral issue. I try and teach my kids that things can and should be tolerated but that doesn't mean they have to be accepted as the 'norm', maybe the acception to the rule... does that make sense? I'm trying to teach them to be open minded, that not everyone is going to think or feel or do as they do but that doesn't make them all wrong, it just makes them different and we can live with different.... we can tolerate different. Family I guess is an individual definition... what I think a family consists of, others might not... who am I to say? I think I'm talking in circles now....

mudderbear said...

happy to see you again Heather...it's been a long time.

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